Really trying to lay fault on races, when the culprit is slavery? C'mon now. Use your thinking cap.

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Very true. But let it be known, that you are for letting negative traits being expressed just so those with suppressed traits can go on and create more negatively expressed trait children. I may not have authority over morality but logic. Sure, why not. 2+2 does not equal 5.

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Also do you not understand that once these kids display these negative traits they won't reproduce, thus removing these traits from the gene pool? And when all these negative recessive alleles are gone, what's left?

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Why do you think it will be removed from the gene pool? Recessive genes don't just vanish if there is no outside dominant gene to take its place.

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One historical example is the relationship between the Spanish and the Native Americans. Your statements are true but don't have to do with the discussion. The sky is blue. So????

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That is a negative yes, I never denied that inbreeding has negatives, but since these genes become expressed more easily they can be culled more easily and removed from the gene pool. Get it?

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Yes. And the number of those with suppressed traits will outnumber those with no negative trait at all. Thus, those who survive will result in all suppressed traits expressed. Get that?

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olno. But think about it, why don't we try to get people to accept other races without causing these negative health effects?

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Health effects such as skin cancer in white people?

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Really? Look up Haldane's Rule, "when in the offspring of two different animal races one sex is absent, rare, or sterile, that sex is the heterogametic [XY] sex." in mammals males are the XY. An X from one race race and a Y from another are less likely to be compatible than an X from each, so the percentage of male mixed race resulting from mixed couples should be lower than the percent in each parent population. http://www.jstor.org/pss/1537084
"Indiscriminate interbreeding between distinct forms, whether 'species' or markedly different races, is not generally beneficial. The defect may show in a change in the sex-ratio of the offspring, probably caused by the early abortion of members of one sex, generally the male in the case of mammals."
From Baker's 1974 book "Race"

See this:
http://www.jstor.org/pss/4145377
The batting average of success for mixed race marriages is 0.127 compared to 0.213 for same race couples

Furthermore, it is proven that genetically similar couples are happier:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/019188699190057I

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1) This applies to inbreeding as well.

2) You give statistics but you don't give the information behind those statistics. Such as what race with race, and the sociology behind that.

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Quit being so vague, what's wrong with what I said?

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You're saying that two people from immediate family are on the same level of two people from two different families.

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No, I would let people inbreed because it's not my fucking business who people decide to fuck. I don't care if people fuck their family or not.

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Then shut the fuck up.

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Because those fucked up individuals won't reproduce, thus they won't spread them at all. Often times they die before puberty. And nobody wants to fuck some deformed person unless they were deformed themselves, and in that case the baby would probably be so ugly it would die once it looked in the mirror, lol.

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Thanks for the info.

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What about the Spanish and Amerinds? Are you saying that race mixing solved all of the violence issues? Because I'm pretty sure that people are still fighting all the time in Latin America and race mixing is as high as ever...

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No, I'm saying that race mixing solved violence issues.

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Yes. And the number of those with suppressed traits will outnumber those with no negative trait at all. Thus, those who survive will result in all suppressed traits expressed. Get that?

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Health effects such as skin cancer in white people?

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This is an environmental adaptation. If mixed people have intermediate skin colors, it means they wouldn't survive well in the White homeland or the Black homeland - in the Black homeland they'd get burned too easily and in the White homeland they'd have a vitamin-D deficiency. Therefore, where are they to live, it would have to be somewhere problematic for both parents?

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1) This applies to inbreeding as well.

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2) You give statistics but you don't give the information behind those statistics. Such as what race with race, and the sociology behind that.

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Do you deny these facts?

Do you deny that the more genetically dissimilar the man and woman are, the more likely for a spontaneous abortion?

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You're saying that two people from immediate family are on the same level of two people from two different families.

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Then shut the fuck up.

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Thanks for the info.

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No, I'm saying that race mixing solved violence issues.

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Lolwut? If it comes from 2 parents, assuming both have 1 of the negative alleles, then they have a 25% chance of getting it from both and not reproducing, and then a 25% chance of not getting it at all. So therefore [assuming they have 4 kids, which works best with these statistics] the potential breeders reduced the chances from 75% likely to pass it on to only 66 1/3% and it keeps going down from there. Simple mathematics.

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If both parents have the recessive gene, and they had four children. One child will have it expressed, two will have it suppressed and one will not have it at all, by chance. If the one who has it expressed does not reproduce then that leaves two who have it suppressed, and one not at all. Therefore, continuing this, there is no way of eliminating the gene. What don't you get?

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Hey now, light skin is beneficial in some ways.
http://news.nurse.com/article/20110921/NATIONAL02/110030005/-1/frontpage
This is an environmental adaptation. If mixed people have intermediate skin colors, it means they wouldn't survive well in the White homeland or the Black homeland - in the Black homeland they'd get burned too easily and in the White homeland they'd have a vitamin-D deficiency. Therefore, where are they to live, it would have to be somewhere problematic for both parents?

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Ok? I guess?

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What does? Haldane's rule? Obviously not because the X and Y would be from the parents, which wouldn't exist in the first place if it applied LOL.

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No, spontaneous abortions.

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Why does it matter? Now is it only good for certain races to mix?
Mixed race marriages are about half as successful as same-race marriages.
Genetically similar couples are more likely to be happier.

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It matters because you're saying that genetically similar couples are more likely to be happier because of genetics, not because of society. And likewise, mixed race couples are less likely to be happier because of genetics, not because of society. Think, smartguy.

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On the same level in what regard? Morally?

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On universal moral standing. Are you that thick?

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I'm not saying we shouldn't inbreed, I'm saying that if it's illegal to inbreed it should also be illegal to race mix.

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I know you're saying we should inbreed. That is clear. You give a lot of evidence supporting your opinion.  

As for the 2nd part... yeah. You lack moral understanding.

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So do you finally understand how inbreeding culls the negative traits and increases the rate of positive traits in a population?

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No, I don't. Furthermore, I disagree.

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The actual act of them reproducing, or them living together in the same area? If the former, care to give some evidence?

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... Are you serious? Do you not know what it means to be a man?

edit: do you not know what it means to be alive?

Post edited at 9:46 pm on Jan. 2, 2012 by jamjardee

Shut out his voice, and he has no voice at all... and that's all he wants, is to be heard. It's quite charming really, except for the fact it's done in some of the most obnoxious of ways.

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If both parents have the recessive gene, and they had four children. One child will have it expressed, two will have it suppressed and one will not have it at all, by chance. If the one who has it expressed does not reproduce then that leaves two who have it suppressed, and one not at all. Therefore, continuing this, there is no way of eliminating the gene. What don't you get?

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No, spontaneous abortions.

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It matters because you're saying that genetically similar couples are more likely to be happier because of genetics, not because of society.

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And likewise, mixed race couples are less likely to be happier because of genetics, not because of society. Think, smartguy.

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On universal moral standing. Are you that thick?

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No, I don't. Furthermore, I disagree.

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... Are you serious? Do you not know what it means to be a man?

edit: do you not know what it means to be alive?

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People should stop feeding this dude by arguing with him. Ignore him.

Shut out his voice, and he has no voice at all... and that's all he wants, is to be heard. It's quite charming really, except for the fact it's done in some of the most obnoxious of ways.

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But feeding the troll is addictive. I need my fix. @_e

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There are better trolls to feed, this person is a tired hat, I don't think I've actually seen a unique thought from Kidd Rune as a poster.

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Once again the retard fails to support the allegation that I'm a troll. It just seems like he's throwing the word out against me in order to take away my credibility, instead of arguing the facts. That's what happens when the facts don't agree with you.
Truly and utterly pathetic.


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