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Why is race mixing legal if incest isn't?  |
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Replies: 226 Last Post Feb. 7 1:56pm by Laurence
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Rastafarian
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I demand this man be canonized at once.
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jamjardee
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Can you even read what I said? It lowers the chances of passing it on from 75% to 66.6%, and this continues to go down until it is reduced to 0%.
Check your numbers.
So? I'm arguing that both inbreeding and race mixing are bad for the child, so pointing out bad effects of inbreeding doesn't mean anything to me. In fact, the spontaneous abortions from inbreeding are a mechanism to remove deleterious recessive alleles, thus lowering their chances of existence. For race mixing, it's an example of mismatched alleles because the two races are not compatible with each other. One is positive in that it reduces the likelihood of bad alleles while the other has no positive effect on the population but is indicative that the two people are not genetically ideal for each other.
You keep going on and on about not compatible, not compatible but there are millions of healthy mixed-raced individuals. Obviously it's compatible.
Does society have access to their genetic code? Nope.
Ok.
That doesn't answer the question. Why does it matter which races specifically were mixing when all mixed races statistically have a lower likelihood of happiness and success?
This has nothing to do with what you quoted.
Universal morals? Once again, not everyone universally agrees that inbreeding is bad, hence why people do it all over the world, hence why they needed to make it illegal to make it stop.
...Snoredom. Sure. Not everyone agrees incest is bad. Sure. People commit incest all over the world. It's even legal in some countries. And in a perfect world, these people who commit incest will wait until each member is a full-fledge adult before committing incest.
Why the hell not? This mechanism is obvious because instead of these traits being latent they're more likely to surface and thus be selected against. Are you that dense?
... Do you not understand that people with suppressed genes don't know they have suppressed genes unless they get their DNA tested or opps create a expressed recessive gene child? Stop being dumb.
Stop dodging the question. 
Your question is dumb. There's no need to dodge it. Post edited at 10:23 pm on Jan. 2, 2012 by jamjardee
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I don't know why you'd create a frustration topic on LiveWire about this fellow why you are literally asking for it at this point jamjardee.
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jamjardee
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I know. But the shock of meeting OP was too much. I've calmed down since encountering such an elite troll.
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Shogun villimax
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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:03 pm on Jan. 2, 2012
Quote: from Shogun villimax at 7:10 pm on Jan. 2, 2012
Quote: from kidd rune at 5:01 pm on Jan. 1, 2012
Both have potentially disastrous effects on the child.
But incest dishonors the relationship you have with that person.
Explain
A brother or sister is someone who's supposed to see you differently then a lover does. It's a different kind of relationship.
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Quote: from jamjardee at 1:19 am on Jan. 3, 2012
Check your numbers.
What are you talking about? Where's the mathematical error?
You keep going on and on about not compatible, not compatible but there are millions of healthy mixed-raced individuals. Obviously it's compatible.
Shitty argument. "Healthy" is subjective. The statistics show that mixed race people are not as healthy as monoracial people. You may consider them still healthy but it's a significant statistical drop, and I see no reason to knowingly do such a thing.
This has nothing to do with what you quoted.
Is your memory that bad? That's because of instead of answering that question you dodged it and said some stupid irrelevant shit. Answer the question: "Why does it matter which races specifically were mixing when all mixed races statistically have a lower likelihood of happiness and success?"
...Snoredom. Sure. Not everyone agrees incest is bad. Sure. People commit incest all over the world. It's even legal in some countries. And in a perfect world, these people who commit incest will wait until each member is a full-fledge adult before committing incest.
So you agree that it's not universally immoral? So why should it be illegal?
... Do you not understand that people with suppressed genes don't know they have suppressed genes unless they get their DNA tested or opps create a expressed recessive gene child? Stop being dumb.
Of course I know that, but the point is those deadly genes are still in existence when inbreeding allows them to be removed from the population gene pool. With race mixing, they will stay latent and possibly one day come back up. And if they're latent, they could easily spread to 1000s of other people, just suppressed, and that would be even worse. The higher likelihood of a deleterious recessive alleles to be displayed is better for the population at whole, because it can quickly get selected against.
Your question is dumb. There's no need to dodge it. 
Then answer.
Trolling: Incest is illegal, so mixed race should be illegal. Not trolling: Monoracial individuals are in better health than mixed race individuals 
I disagree with the first. The first is just saying that it's inconsistent, I personally don't believe either should be illegal, but if one is it makes no sense to have the other legal...
Trolling: "race mixing is selfish and destructive" Not trolling: race mixing increases likelihood of negative traits 
It is by that exact mechanism which makes it selfish [you care more about yourself than your child] and destructive.
Outbreeding does not stand on the same pedestal as inbreeding. As both may have negative effects, one clearly is beneficial overall.
That would be inbreeding, as it improves the health of the population at large, albeit to the expense of some individuals. However, race mixing decreases the health of the individuals, and does nothing positive to the population at large.
One promotes a genetic diversity, while the other promotes limiting the gene pool.
Correction: One undoes 10s of thousands of years of convergent evolving genes and undoes countless gene combinations that were selected for optimal health. The other strongly selects for positive traits and strongly selects against negative traits for the population at large, albeit at the expense of many individuals [the kids that get fucked up].
One promotes a life of enriching discoveries, while one promotes a life of humdrum.
Complete fucking bullshit. There is nothing enriching about race mixing. NOTHING.
One promotes choice, while one promotes selfish relations and intentions.
They both promote choice, all relationships do unless they're forced, however both are selfish to some extent while inbreeding can be seen as selfless of the whole family because it improves the gene pool at the expense of the children.
One promotes nature, another denies it.
Care to explain? In nature, animals develop scent glands or other traits that cause them to avoid race mixing. That's how the breeds came to exist in the first place. Furthermore, there are quite a few inbred populations so that's not really an argument either. Before you talk out of your ass think a little bit...
If you cannot understand this, then tough luck. Go fuck yourself, you faggot.
Understand what you fucking retard troll? None of this shit makes any sense, and you've failed to support your claims. If anyone is a troll it's you.
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Quote: from Shogun villimax at 6:09 pm on Jan. 3, 2012
Quote: from kidd rune at 6:03 pm on Jan. 2, 2012
Quote: from Shogun villimax at 7:10 pm on Jan. 2, 2012
Quote: from kidd rune at 5:01 pm on Jan. 1, 2012
Both have potentially disastrous effects on the child.
But incest dishonors the relationship you have with that person.
Explain
A brother or sister is someone who's supposed to see you differently then a lover does. It's a different kind of relationship.
That's in your opinion. There's no "Supposed to" in nature, you do whatever you desire. If brother and sister wants to fuck who are you to tell them no?
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If jamjardee thinks races all living together is a good thing, how does he/she explain why a UN study from between 1989 and 1992 found 82 conflicts just in those three years that resulted in one thousand or more deaths, and of this number no fewer than 79 involved ethnic or religious antagonisms within the borders of a single nation. 79/82 deaths of over 1000 due to the joys of diversity. Let's all mix and be happy LOL. Over 96% of these conflicts, the strong history of tribal warfare in the majority of our human history, the small levels of racial admixture compared to the high levels of same-race relationships, the incompatible genes, the examples all over the globe.... it all suggests that if anything is the most 'natural' it is same-race mixing and even inbreeding is more 'natural' than race mixing. We're humans because our ancestors inbred instead of race-mixed millions of years ago by fucking chimpanzees, neither species would have existed and it's likely we wouldn't have been as intelligent as we are now. You ungrateful little fucks better be happy your ancestors practiced heavy inbreeding...
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You are kidding right?
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Quote: from Angieangelina at 5:59 pm on Feb. 2, 2012
You are kidding right?
Why would I be? Look at the facts, why would anyone choose to race mix?
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Laurence
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When we question the legality of anything, we are simply assessing what a particular society deems morally acceptable and that is all. These matters vary according to culture and history. From a scientific and medical point of view, however, it is clear that incest combined with procreation can lead to far nefarious consequences than racial mixing. Genetic variation and genetic diversity have been found to be far better for the survival and genetic health of a species than inbreeding or any situation leading to limitations in allele assortment. Thus, from a purely practical point of view, racial mixing, which leads to greater genetic variations, is far better than incest.
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